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Posted: Tuesday Sep 19th, 2006 09:32 PM |
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http://www.racenscs.com/
I guess this means that the two day event in Yakima this weekend is officially the last NoST race ever.
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Posted: Tuesday Sep 19th, 2006 10:29 PM |
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| You are correct. An end to an era that lasted over 10 years. Unfortunately I cannot make it, but if you can I would go. The points are tight and racing will be great as usual.
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Posted: Tuesday Sep 19th, 2006 10:53 PM |
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PAUL wrote: You are correct. An end to an era that lasted over 10 years. Unfortunately I cannot make it, but if you can I would go. The points are tight and racing will be great as usual. Already had planned on making the trip.
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Posted: Tuesday Sep 19th, 2006 11:00 PM |
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| Take lots of pictures and post them please.
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Posted: Wednesday Sep 20th, 2006 01:13 AM |
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So ....................
Who is managing/running the new series ? I for one am excited about any race I go to NaST/WoO/NoST/GHR/Skagit shoot I even got excited abuot the Monster Truck show (LOL) 
Anyhow I am just about ready for the Next Season of Racing wherever it may be, have NEW camera & ready to snap those pics !
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Posted: Wednesday Sep 20th, 2006 01:24 AM |
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Fletch wrote: So ....................
Who is managing/running the new series ?
I had the same question yesterday, but then I got to thinking. Based on the address on the webpage of the link I originally provided, I'm guessing it's Steve Beitler. Again, this is my guess. Pure speculation.
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Posted: Wednesday Sep 20th, 2006 01:45 AM |
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| Dick and Shawna Wilskey have bought the rights to the series, not Beitler.
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Posted: Wednesday Sep 20th, 2006 03:12 AM |
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| From what I understand, they bought the assets not the rights-hence the name change
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Posted: Wednesday Sep 20th, 2006 04:01 AM |
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| Whatever, I am not a lawyer thank goodness. All I know is it will be in good hands with Wilskey's.
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Posted: Wednesday Sep 20th, 2006 08:19 AM |
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| I wasn't trying to start an argument with you. I just think that there are alot of people out here that think the nscs is the same as the NoST. They're not. They are 2 completely different animals. If they were the same there wouldn't be talk about rule changes( motors). Fred and his staff had gained great creditability with the racers- I can only hope that the Wilkskey's will be able to do the same.
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Posted: Wednesday Sep 20th, 2006 08:23 AM |
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| OOPS!! Wilskey's
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Posted: Wednesday Sep 20th, 2006 05:27 PM |
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wingbuilder wrote: I wasn't trying to start an argument with you. I just think that there are alot of people out here that think the nscs is the same as the NoST. They're not. They are 2 completely different animals. If they were the same there wouldn't be talk about rule changes( motors). Fred and his staff had gained great creditability with the racers- I can only hope that the Wilkskey's will be able to do the same.
Well there was no argument, but there is a difference of opinion. From what I have been told and what has been stated in this thread;
http://www.nwracechat.com/view_topic.php?id=3307&forum_id=11
...the series are very similar. The only real difference is the owners. As for the rule change FB had been working towards changing over to the ASCS motor for several years and it appears that the Wilskey's are headed the same direction. Although I totally disagree with your statement, "I just think that there are alot of people out here that think the nscs is the same as the NoST. They're not. They are 2 completely different animals.", I would like to know how and why you think they are so different.
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Posted: Wednesday Sep 20th, 2006 07:02 PM |
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The average race fan thinks that the Wilskey's bought the series just like you stated above. From what I can gather they just bought the equipment. I my opinion, I wish they would have bought the series and continued with the series in the exact direction that it was going. If that was the case we'd only be talking one rule change. When I talked with Fred last winter he told me that he wanted to go to flat top wings with a 1 inch wickerbill for this next season. He stated that that would the last change for a long period of time.
I think that Fred had great staffs at both Elma and the NoST and he let them do the jobs that they were hired to do. After Freds death, I thought that the staff for the NoST really stepped up and would have made Fred proud. At the same time Dick W. came to Elma , which at the time I thought was a very good move. There were a few times that I thought that he didn't let the staff do their job, which led to confusion and some hard feelings.
Our team believes in the direction that Fred has us going and are committed 100% to the ASCS motor deal. Our plan for next year is to support races that are ASCS motors only.
I guess the series are similar- they both have 360 motors. Maybe the differences I see are Vision,leadership,creditability, and staff.
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Posted: Wednesday Sep 20th, 2006 08:03 PM |
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Okay I can see where you are coming from on this subject. It sounds to me like you have personal experience with what you are saying and I appreciate your point of view. I only know what is told to me. But let me address the differences you claim there possibly will be.
Vision;
Of course this is only my opinion of what was wrote in the statement on the new web site. It sounds like the vision is basically the same.
Leadership;
Yeah, new owners, new leadership I can see that.
Creditability;
Dick and Shawna have lots of creditalbility in the racing community. Yes, they have never owned a racing series, but lets see how it goes before passing judgement.
Staff;
I have absolutely no clue as to who their staff is going to be or if they are even changing staff. I have heard nothing about it.
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Posted: Wednesday Sep 20th, 2006 08:54 PM |
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PAUL wrote: Okay I can see where you are coming from on this subject. It sounds to me like you have personal experience with what you are saying and I appreciate your point of view. I only know what is told to me. But let me address the differences you claim there possibly will be.
Vision;
Of course this is only my opinion of what was wrote in the statement on the new web site. It sounds like the vision is basically the same.
Now I do not want this to go the direction of the last thread but I would say that: if the motor rules are changed this would be a different vision.... as the ASCS rules were the heart of the vision. Not better , Not Worse, but different could be hugely successful or less successful and it is their decision but it would be a different Vision.
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Posted: Wednesday Sep 20th, 2006 08:58 PM |
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Haven't I read on the ASCS National website that they allow open motors to race with a Felpro restrictor gasket or was I just imagining that? I can't see the ASCS site at work...it's blocked under "sports".   Last edited on Wednesday Sep 20th, 2006 08:59 PM by bankerbill27
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Posted: Wednesday Sep 20th, 2006 09:06 PM |
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bankerbill27 wrote: Haven't I read on the ASCS National website that they allow open motors to race with a Felpro restrictor gasket or was I just imagining that? I can't see the ASCS site at work...it's blocked under "sports".
I believe they did away with that rule a couple years back.
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Posted: Wednesday Sep 20th, 2006 09:08 PM |
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GregB wrote: bankerbill27 wrote: Haven't I read on the ASCS National website that they allow open motors to race with a Felpro restrictor gasket or was I just imagining that? I can't see the ASCS site at work...it's blocked under "sports".
I believe they did away with that rule a couple years back.
Oh, I thought I read it a couple weeks ago. I'll have to look when I get home. 
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Posted: Wednesday Sep 20th, 2006 09:14 PM |
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bankerbill27 wrote: GregB wrote: bankerbill27 wrote: Haven't I read on the ASCS National website that they allow open motors to race with a Felpro restrictor gasket or was I just imagining that? I can't see the ASCS site at work...it's blocked under "sports".
I believe they did away with that rule a couple years back.
Oh, I thought I read it a couple weeks ago. I'll have to look when I get home.
Just spoke with them yesterday and the only difference in rules was the 1% rule as I stated here:
http://www.nwracechat.com/view_topic.php?id=3307&forum_id=11&page=4
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Posted: Thursday Sep 21st, 2006 12:40 AM |
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GregB wrote: PAUL wrote: Okay I can see where you are coming from on this subject. It sounds to me like you have personal experience with what you are saying and I appreciate your point of view. I only know what is told to me. But let me address the differences you claim there possibly will be.
Vision;
Of course this is only my opinion of what was wrote in the statement on the new web site. It sounds like the vision is basically the same.
Now I do not want this to go the direction of the last thread but I would say that: if the motor rules are changed this would be a different vision.... as the ASCS rules were the heart of the vision. Not better , Not Worse, but different could be hugely successful or less successful and it is their decision but it would be a different Vision.
But the jury is still out until the end of October. The way I read the statement was they are working hard to stay in the direction of the ASCS motor.
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Posted: Thursday Sep 21st, 2006 04:13 AM |
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| I think the series would croak if they didn't stay ascs.
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Posted: Thursday Sep 21st, 2006 07:02 PM |
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| Geez Paul if you would just take off the Birkenstocks and put down the water pipe for a minute you might have a clearer idea about what is really going on with the changes and this new series! F#*$ing Oregon people anyway, you can't even pump your own gas down there.
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Posted: Thursday Sep 21st, 2006 07:37 PM |
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br wrote: Geez Paul if you would just take off the Birkenstocks and put down the water pipe for a minute you might have a clearer idea about what is really going on with the changes and this new series! F#*$ing Oregon people anyway, you can't even pump your own gas down there.
Okay "br" let me make this perfectly clear to you. I have never worn them sissy hippy shoes in my life and I have never own a water pipe. I am just slow and stupid and I am sticking with that excuse. Because I would much rather be stupid than a Birkenstock wearer....LMAO!!! However, my wife wears them for work and I will let her handle your comments. Man are you in trouble now Jeff....LOL
As for pumping my own gas, how do you do that?
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Posted: Friday Sep 22nd, 2006 04:35 AM |
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Br is just jealous because he has to pump his own gas in the rain. We have people do it for us, and we PAY less per gallon!
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Posted: Friday Sep 22nd, 2006 02:42 PM |
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you still gotta wash your own windshield and check your own oil though..
and whats up with the gas being cheaper down there, that blows
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Posted: Friday Sep 22nd, 2006 03:35 PM |
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| Even the casino near me has it for $2.62 per gallon. Actually some stations down here still come out and wash your window and offer to check your oil, not many though. I think all the Chevron's will.
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Posted: Friday Sep 22nd, 2006 03:38 PM |
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Crap, figures...I got a Shell/Texaco card
EDIT..Breaking news, this just in..ARCO AM/PM down the street just went to 2.59
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Posted: Friday Sep 22nd, 2006 04:12 PM |
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Hey Rick,
Payed $2.53 yesterday at AM/PM in Fairwood... yeah, only bought 2.5 gallons, (motorcycles at 60 mpg are great) but hey, it was cheap... (in a distorted way)....
As far as the NSCS vs. NST vs. GHR, knowing the Wilskeys for as long as I have, they will not do something just to do it, without first putting alot of thought and effort behind whatever decision they make. Dick is a very good businessman, and Shawna has shown that she is pretty good herself. They will, in the end, do what they feel is best for racing in the Northwest and we will have to choose whether to support it or not, based on our own personal goals. I will be supporting GHR in 2007, as I am already in line with the announced rules. I will also support the NSCS when time and money allow, as I have never worried about whether I match up HP wise, I just want to race. It would be sad if we didn't have a choice, but sometimes having the choice sure brings out alot of b**ching and moaning.
Can't wait to get out on the Yakidega track this afternoon and play in the dirt one last time this year.
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Posted: Friday Sep 22nd, 2006 04:20 PM |
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| SEE YOU THERE.. Would not miss that last pit meeting for the world!
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