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 Posted: Sunday Aug 24th, 2008 10:05 PM
some wild stuff last night...........

one cool thing that happened though after the Super Stock crash...... while we were in the stands watching the car get towed off and the Jim get loaded in to the ambulance. An older gentleman came up to us at the flag stand and said he wanted to donate $5 to the crash fund for Bob "the ramblinman" Brumback and Jimmy "the 3" Brock. 
We announced his name and the crowd cheered for him.
Pretty soon every little kid in the stands was lined up at the flag stand with one dollar bills saying they wanted to help fix the cars to! 
I had them say their name on the microphone and what they wanted thier money to go towards fixing, the majority said that they wanted to buy a tire with thier money. 
Big Bob collected thier donations while we talked to each kid (adults too) lol........  when it was said and done there was $242 in the pot,   we have $121 in cash for the ramblin man and the 3. Not alot of dough considering the damage but  Pretty wild how it all started and the kids were fun........ every bit helps.

 

Sorry that happened to those guys, but it should be noted that the little guys and gals are in the stands and are on your team! 



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 Posted: Sunday Aug 24th, 2008 10:52 PM
Just goes to show that the spirit of the racing family is alive and well. :)



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jimmy the 3 just got up and typed an essay under thank yous stacie started, however i cant thank enough all my friends and fans and safty people. jimmy's p.s. i found sponge bob face doun on the floorboards,i guess the track officials picked up a lot of him off the track too. im gonna have to get him a lot of bandaids so he can race again for the kids. jimmy 1



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 Posted: Sunday Aug 24th, 2008 10:55 PM
Poor Spongebob.  His stuffing was all over the track. :shock:  Better his than yours, tho.  Glad you're okay Jimmy. :)



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 Posted: Monday Aug 25th, 2008 07:42 PM
truck and sponge bob is going in for repairs



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I need to thank several people for their efforts before, during, & after the unnessary [unfortunate just does not describe it] accident. Race scan worked well before the impact. I had several seconds to relax, which probably was a help to me.  And, Rick, I understand you did everthing just short of jumping onto the track. Maybe you should of made the step over the wall. LOL. Not really. I was the one with the cage around me. Now I remember why I demand the cage be well built. My ribs don't agree right now, but there are some cages that would not have held up. Thanks so much to the Glide crew for being there. Sure glad you were there. And thanks to all the DCS fans for their contributions. That was really COOL. A few people have mentioned that drug testing should be used. Maybe IQ test should be first. Again, thanks to the track crew, the Glide crew, and all the DCS fans.

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 Posted: Friday Sep 5th, 2008 06:51 AM
Ramblinman, Hear you broke some ribs:(, hope you're feeling better soon and are able to git back out there for the next race:D.

From what we saw it was an unnecessary crash, 3 other cars had easily slowed down and made it around you before you got hit.

Let us know if we can help ya git your car or Dougs car running again;) 

Last edited on Friday Sep 5th, 2008 06:55 AM by Benjersmydriver



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Thanks for the thoughts. And thanks for not giving your good hugs in town, would have hurt a little, I think. LOL

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Benjersmydriver wrote: Ramblinman, Hear you broke some ribs:(, hope you're feeling better soon and are able to git back out there for the next race:D.

From what we saw it was an unnecessary crash, 3 other cars had easily slowed down and made it around you before you got hit.

Let us know if we can help ya git your car or Dougs car running again;) 



it was just a plain and simple accident, i was standing at the wall like everyone else, you could not see dougs car in the bunch of thick dirt that was in the air!

the other 3 cars got around him because they saw him spin out, jim and james were way behind, they didn't see number 10 spin out.

 

 

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And the race scan meant nothing, and neither did yellow flags waving in his face [Rick is easy to see when he wants to be seen [Sorry Rick]], or the yellow light before turn 3. HMMMM. Nuff said.

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 Posted: Friday Sep 5th, 2008 02:50 PM
duckies5 wrote:
 you could not see dougs car in the bunch of thick dirt that was in the air!


 



All the more reason to stop!

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 Posted: Friday Sep 5th, 2008 03:23 PM
DO YOU REALLY THINK JIM DID THIS ON PURPOSE????

DO YOU REALLY THINK HE MENT TO SEND HIM SELF TO THE HOSPITAL, CAUSING MAJOR PAIN TO EVERYONE? RUINING YOUR CAR AND HIS TRUCK ALONE.?????

WELL HE DIDN'T IT WAS PLAIN AND A SIMPLE ACCIDENT!

 



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 Posted: Friday Sep 5th, 2008 03:33 PM
We're just glad everybody is okay.  Hope you get healed up quick Bob.



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Gee, I thought the whole problem was the vertically challanged, spanish speaking race director...................nobody could understand him.............:P

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 Posted: Friday Sep 5th, 2008 04:21 PM
enough, I'm Sorry the accident occured, the yellow light was not on in turn 3. Period! and the first thing i heard on the race scan was "hard hit in the drivers door,, hard hit in the drivers door" period!

there was no warning except for dust in the air. all butt covering and finger pointing aside it was an accident, do you really think i wanted to total my truck and spend the evening in the hospital? jimmy was right behind me ask him what he saw!

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Jimmy3 wrote: enough, I'm Sorry the accident occured, the yellow light was not on in turn 3. Period! and the first thing i heard on the race scan was "hard hit in the drivers door,, hard hit in the drivers door" period!

there was no warning except for dust in the air. all butt covering and finger pointing aside it was an accident, do you really think i wanted to total my truck and spend the evening in the hospital? jimmy was right behind me ask him what he saw!


I know you didn't mean for it to happen and I sincerely think you are sorry that it happened. I'm not saying that your not.

I just think you are not a very good driver and thats what contributed to this wreck. Nothing personal JMO.



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Jim says he didn't hear anything on the race scan.  What did
Bob hear after he spun out?  Did any other drivers hear anything?
This is exactly why the race scanners were made mandatory....
This accident should not have happened.



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Weekend Wranglers wrote: Jim says he didn't hear anything on the race scan.  What did
Bob hear after he spun out?  Did any other drivers hear anything?
This is exactly why the race scanners were made mandatory....
This accident should not have happened.



No that is not why they were made mandatory.  I have been saying in pit meetings all throughout the year that the racescan was not to substitute a driver's awareness for what is happening around him on the track.  Racescans were made mandatory due to their quickness with lineups, black flags, etc.  We can not drive the cars for you.

I can say that I know I was on the racescan giving an alert as to a caution in turn three when the incident happened.  The statement "hard hit in the driver's door" was meant for my safety crew to give them a head's up on the urgency and until now wasn't aware that went out on racescan.  If anything, that only proves that I had my hand on the racescan button.

My point is.....I have been saying all year that drivers are not to rely on the racescan to keep them out of trouble and need to have enough track awareness to keep themselves out of trouble.

I don't care to be a part of who did what wrong, but wanted to clear up the statement regarding the racescan.:dude:



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oreimca15 wrote: Gee, I thought the whole problem was the vertically challanged, spanish speaking race director...................nobody could understand him.............:P
You must be talking about Adam cuz I don't speak spanish.  Heck.....I'm not even Mexican.  lol



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It's ok Ricardo, we understand:P

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Anyone have any pics of this wreck or the aftermath?



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Justin, Sch1tz0fr3nik should have some good pictures of it.  He almost always gets the shots.

Not on purpose!  Jim is one of the nicest guys I have met at DCS.  You can't improve unless you are in the race... 



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xingman wrote: No that is not why they were made mandatory.  I have been saying in pit meetings all throughout the year that the racescan was not to substitute a driver's awareness for what is happening around him on the track.  Racescans were made mandatory due to their quickness with lineups, black flags, etc.  We can not drive the cars for you.

I can say that I know I was on the racescan giving an alert as to a caution in turn three when the incident happened.  The statement "hard hit in the driver's door" was meant for my safety crew to give them a head's up on the urgency and until now wasn't aware that went out on racescan.  If anything, that only proves that I had my hand on the racescan button.

My point is.....I have been saying all year that drivers are not to rely on the racescan to keep them out of trouble and need to have enough track awareness to keep themselves out of trouble.

I don't care to be a part of who did what wrong, but wanted to clear up the statement regarding the racescan.:dude:

Okay....i stand corrected.  Don said the race scanner is not
a "spotter" for the drivers.
The safety crew was pretty impressive with how well they
worked to get these drivers to medical help....good job,
guys....



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Safety guys and gals did an awesome job for sure.

 



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No that is not why they were made mandatory.  I have been saying in pit meetings all throughout the year that the racescan was not to substitute a driver's awareness for what is happening around him on the track.  Racescans were made mandatory due to their quickness with lineups, black flags, etc.  We can not drive the cars for you.



Rick is exactly right. [By the way, some say you kinda look like a mexican] Race scan does not take the place. I never said anyone did it on purpose. But with caution lights on, yellow flags flying, & dust clouds, you have to drive beyond your hood & "be aware of what is happening around you"

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I know you didn't mean for it to happen and I sincerely think you are sorry that it happened. I'm not saying that your not.

I just think you are not a very good driver and thats what contributed to this wreck. Nothing personal JMO.

Not sure if this is truley the right place for that kind of comment especially coming from someone that doesn't even race. And how can a comment like that not be personal? These kinds of things happen and they are called accidents for a reason.  There have been several wrecks this year and years passed that have happened because someone "drove over their head" ranging from rookies to veterans. What has happened has happened and we are glad that both drivers were not seriously injured or worse. If you feel there is a deeper issue then go talk to that driver don't air it on racechat



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who states that the caution lights were on? state it right here. caution lights were not on when i entered turn 3. obviously these comments are coming from the peanut gallery. and as for my driving, sorry you feel that way. that makes one of you or theres possibly one more @#$% that didnt see what happened either. so sinse you didnt see it all and werent in the position please can it.i have avoided many wrecks such as this by inches and been praised. and my head was obviously not up my cazoo as it hit the sdteering wheel.



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and bob, you couldnt see if the caution was out or not so where are you getting this info?



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Not that it matters, since I have only heard of 2 persons that don't agree, but from a large # from the pits & likewise from the stands. If you don't see it, know it, or understand it, I can't help it. Nuff said. Not goin to argue the point with you. Not worth my time.:D

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What a load of crap  Ask the driver behind the whole thing (he barely squeaked through it) and you will get the answers that people are assuming, I did and got a different story than what someone said they saw or heard from somebody.  Someone told me, I heard, the talk in the pits is.....  Kinda write your own story when that happens.  If they said it, let em repeat it themselves.

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From a fans point of view i think that is really sad that this thread has turned out the way that it is and maybe we should be thankful that the people in the accident were ok and thank all the "little" fans that donated the money and the guy that started it.

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thank you hon, well said. i am very thankful and i wish there could be peace at dcs and the racers who have left could all come back. friends like rotten ron ,dave the pump man.......for now though i guess im added to the list. jimmy  i will however try to get the truck fixed for one last race for the fans, especially the little ones. sponge bob is repaired and ready to go. i hope i can be a good enough driver to keep him safe. till then, and only if rotten ron has my back,i will consentrate on nsra, what a good bunch of drivers. no whiners,finger pointers or back stabbers and they think i drive great. wish me the best at monroe on 9/13. i love my fans and my circle of friends at dcs-you know who you are and so do i. and adam and kelly, love ya .jimmy



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Jimmy3 wrote: thank you hon, well said. i am very thankful and i wish there could be peace at dcs and the racers who have left could all come back. friends like rotten ron ,dave the pump man.......for now though i guess im added to the list. jimmy  i will however try to get the truck fixed for one last race for the fans, especially the little ones. sponge bob is repaired and ready to go. i hope i can be a good enough driver to keep him safe. till then, and only if rotten ron has my back,i will consentrate on nsra, what a good bunch of drivers. no whiners,finger pointers or back stabbers and they think i drive great. wish me the best at monroe on 9/13. i love my fans and my circle of friends at dcs-you know who you are and so do i. and adam and kelly, love ya .jimmy
Earlier this year Dale had a very similar incident where he clipped a car in practice (which had spun out a half lap before) and crashed our car into the back wall... we used it as a learning experience even though it had never happened before.  We looked at what happened, why it happened, and what WE could do different in the future to prevent it happening again.  There were several things that we made changes to, rather than just write it off as an unavoidable accident.  I am wondering if you might consider all the 'noise' about this could be turned around into an asset for improving your racing.  Maybe take a look at whether or not has this happened before, and if it has, why did it happen again??... and if it hasn't, what can YOU do differently (that possibly the other drivers did in this case) so it doesn't happen again??  Some things WE changed were a new (NOT pitted and scratched up) windshield; Dale's spotter (me) has a race scanner so I don't talk when the race director is, and block out track info; Dale always wears his glasses whether racing or practicing; and I spot from a different location even during practice where I can see all 4 corners now.  Just a suggestion that everyone (with negativve comments) might not be just whiners, finger pointers, and back stabbers out to get you.  If you are able to look past the criticism there might be some simple things you personally could do different in the future that doesn't involve other people (like the officials' lights and racescan and other cars in your line of sight) which would make you a better racer.  Think about it!

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 1st ,if we were allowed spotters and radios ide have one like some who do regardless. 2nd no it hasnt happened before. and finally! &%$# all ya all. its been fun. not!

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and what other drivers are you speaking of" that the others did ". james was the only other one besides jimmy who was behind me. so if you mean stuffing james into the k barrier like some un mentionables did to my friend ron mccoy, to avoid the accident. no thank you.



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WOW!! what a mess, and its been almost 2 weeks ago!! I was there, and here is what I seen..... I seen (as I do in every class  here at DCS anymore),  drivers not showing enough respect for the other drivers equipment, let alone his own. I will not be a finger pointer here either. We all, have alot of time, let alone money in our cars to not do so!! Anyways, I never heard RaceScan, I was doing my duty as a DRIVER, and trying to stay out of a already bad situation.. My point about respect is... Think before you do something you KNOW is gonna cause an incident. We are all individials in our own cars/trucks striving for the same thing, to win, but have different ideas on how to get there... To win is a great thing, but to drive the car on the trailer and go home with minor, or no damage is THE ULTIMATE VICTORY!!! We don't make near enough $$, finishing 1st, let alone last, to warrant tearing up ours, or someone elses equipment. Plus it causes hard feelings and can lead to losing good friends, and for what????!!!! Please, EVERYONE try to respect each other at ALL TIMES.... On the track and off.



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larrym14r wrote: Jimmy3 wrote: thank you hon, well said. i am very thankful and i wish there could be peace at dcs and the racers who have left could all come back. friends like rotten ron ,dave the pump man.......for now though i guess im added to the list. jimmy  i will however try to get the truck fixed for one last race for the fans, especially the little ones. sponge bob is repaired and ready to go. i hope i can be a good enough driver to keep him safe. till then, and only if rotten ron has my back,i will consentrate on nsra, what a good bunch of drivers. no whiners,finger pointers or back stabbers and they think i drive great. wish me the best at monroe on 9/13. i love my fans and my circle of friends at dcs-you know who you are and so do i. and adam and kelly, love ya .jimmy
Earlier this year Dale had a very similar incident where he clipped a car in practice (which had spun out a half lap before) and crashed our car into the back wall... we used it as a learning experience even though it had never happened before.  We looked at what happened, why it happened, and what WE could do different in the future to prevent it happening again.  There were several things that we made changes to, rather than just write it off as an unavoidable accident.  I am wondering if you might consider all the 'noise' about this could be turned around into an asset for improving your racing.  Maybe take a look at whether or not has this happened before, and if it has, why did it happen again??... and if it hasn't, what can YOU do differently (that possibly the other drivers did in this case) so it doesn't happen again??  Some things WE changed were a new (NOT pitted and scratched up) windshield; Dale's spotter (me) has a race scanner so I don't talk when the race director is, and block out track info; Dale always wears his glasses whether racing or practicing; and I spot from a different location even during practice where I can see all 4 corners now.  Just a suggestion that everyone (with negativve comments) might not be just whiners, finger pointers, and back stabbers out to get you.  If you are able to look past the criticism there might be some simple things you personally could do different in the future that doesn't involve other people (like the officials' lights and racescan and other cars in your line of sight) which would make you a better racer.  Think about it!

well said!

sometimes i come on here and get more drama then i do at my highschool! lol :shock::shock::shock: :) (like in this case)

obviously there is some hard feelings goin on here but ya know...we are racers after all arent we?



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 Posted: Saturday Sep 6th, 2008 06:44 AM
Jimmy3 wrote: and what other drivers are you speaking of" that the others did ". james was the only other one besides jimmy who was behind me. so if you mean stuffing james into the k barrier like some un mentionables did to my friend ron mccoy, to avoid the accident. no thank you.
I saw three other drivers slow and go around the wreck before you came crashing in at full speed.  I sort of remember something like this DID happen before!  Sorry to bother you with my advice... you obviously don't have any room for improvement!!  Hope you and NSRA enjoy each other!  ;)

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 Posted: Saturday Sep 6th, 2008 06:48 AM
Just so we all know, I do believe I remember seeing in the rules for Super Stocks, 2 way radios ARE allowed, I will go look now to be sure tho....



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 Posted: Saturday Sep 6th, 2008 06:49 AM
Jimmy3 wrote:  1st ,if we were allowed spotters and radios ide have one like some who do regardless. 2nd no it hasnt happened before. and finally! &%$# all ya all. its been fun. not!
Guess I'm a cheater... we used a spotter in the Fair Race when you spun on the back STRAIGHT trying to keep a Street Stock behind you...  have you read the rules??


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