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We are going to try a front drive honda at DCS next year and would like have some input from other racers that run front drive cars . GOOD OR BAD  i would like to here your view on the chassis and the  V tech motor .

                                                                       Thanks   Jeff and Dave



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Try going to ovaltrackdigest.com, they have a fwd mini forum.

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Good Ol' Sleepy Gomez....:cool:

Cool forum



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Scott are you guys going to stay in the minis or move up next year

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frogman wrote: Scott are you guys going to stay in the minis or move up next year

We'll see what comes out of the shop after this winter....:D  Jr. wants to race two divisions next year and get a beast of a motor for the 71.  He'll be giving WSK all of his money....:cool:

Hopefully the Rev. and team figures out the FWD car and paves the way for a new breed of mini's.



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Dan is going to build a hot rod motor for his nissan 51 and race it again next year but i realy think the front drive cars will take off once we get them going ...I talked to cheater...1.. today and he is going to go the rest of the way with his VW and make it a mini . So with it and jeffs new car we will have two on the track this spring .



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But, isn't "Mini Stock", and "Compact", and  "Pony Car" class all about rear wheel drive cars?

Man, we had one hell of a shake up in our Compact class this weekend.



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we are thinking of putting out a neon next year, we have the car but probably not the money for next year.

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Oh-Oh wrote: But, isn't "Mini Stock", and "Compact", and  "Pony Car" class all about rear wheel drive cars?

Man, we had one hell of a shake up in our Compact class this weekend.


Times are changing and we are trying to keep up with the times . I think its all about what is out there to be found to race . front drive cars are every where and in every back yard . If billy bob sees a car like the one that he drives to work out there smoking tires then billy bob is more likly to come and play him self .

So Oh-Oh what happend there in the compact class ?????? :)



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slowoneone wrote: we are thinking of putting out a neon next year, we have the car but probably not the money for next year.
 When i had hair.....my first race car was put together out of junk and spare pocket change. I put it together in a dirt drive way with a tarp over me . You would be suprized what you can do when you put your mind to it . You can get started buy striping the car out . With every pound you take off . ..you make that car faster . So by just striping it out you are making your self a race car . Then just go out and sit in the thing every night and think about what you can do to it with no money . Start asking racers aroud you if thay have parts for sale . You will find that racers will start giving you what you need to help you along if thay see that you are making a effort .  



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Evergreen Speedway in WA runs them... Scirrocoos, Rabbits, Jettas... They are the fastest thing there.. I think a civic with a V-tec would do good. And it can weigh almost nothing.. I was thinkin a 88-91 3 door civic with the newer twin cam V-tec would whip a 2300 or anything elses ***!! Lots of parts for them out there. I think stock they would do well cause of the light weight.



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The FWD cars are not the fastest cars at Monroe. It's a 240SX.  There's two or three really fast FWDs but still three to four tenths slower than the Nissan.

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this dodge neon sold for $1600 bucks...   looks kinda cool and different




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http://www.racingwest.com/classifieds/

and stuff here also

 



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ReverendDave wrote: So Oh-Oh what happend there in the compact class ?????? :)



Well it's a long story,  part of it includes why I won't race in our Compact class at Montana Raceway Park.  Kind of an ongoing saga, not unlike what goes on at your track and most others.  The difference being you guys want to work it out and your track management wants to make it work.  Here it's cheaters vs. honest racers and just a big joke.  The car count has  gotten so miserable we can't figure out what the fans are coming for, must be the cold beer.  Funny how track management doesn't seem to care.  What's going on here?

Three more Compact cars dropped out last week, vowing never to return.  Bummer.  The reason was, again, "we don't know who the rules are aimed at, and how to get exemption status from them".  Kind of a different way of saying what I have said for three years now.

Well lo and behold, suddenly the class representative, seemingly automatic "Sportsman of the Year" recipient forever, biggest cheater and joker the track has ever seen but the darling of the track manager, gets protested (by the driver he got DQ'd last week on a pretty minor infraction).  Joker refused to allow his car to be inspected.  Bad idea, even for him.  He was DQ'd for that night and two previous nights.  In his fit of rage he announced that they "better have lots of black flags ready next week."  We guess that means that since he is no longer a contender for a third consecutive championship,  he'll be there next week to wreck people.  Nothing terribly new, just unusual to give warning...

Two racers I talked to yesterday now don't want to be on the same track with him, an attitude I've had for two seasons now.  But maybe there was a message from the track, finally, that there really was a reason they waste so much paper and ink on a rulebook every year.  Interesting....

Should be a heck of a race next week!   :shock:

But Hey, I didn't mean to hijack your topic.  I wish our track had a forum.  I admire you guys for your ability to discuss things and help each other out.  The Minis thrive at DCS because you care, and your promoters care.  I've seen ideas and advice here that I only dream of implementing at our track, had I the authority to try to help out there.  It has seemed as if they want us all to go away, and it's been working!

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I say go fwd.  If you do your research you can run circles around 90% of the 2300's while not breaking the bank.



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Oh-Oh wrote: ReverendDave wrote: So Oh-Oh what happend there in the compact class ?????? :)



  It has seemed as if they want us all to go away, and it's been working!


Wow ...Sounds like it got a little crazy there :shock: Buy the way you say that guy is acting ....you guys should let him go onto the track for the main and when all of you come around for the green all of you go in and leave him out there to run all by him self .... ;)



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pumpman 1 wrote: I say check his tires:cool:
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hornet17 wrote: pumpman 1 wrote: I say check his tires:cool:
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LOL....you two sure were alot of fun this year ...:) Thanks for taking your ...points evaporation so well . The two of you are truly good friends of mine . :dude::cool::dude:



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Rev we had a front wheel drive car in the class about 5 years ago when i first started... The thing was always way too loose. And they could not get the thing to tighten up.. George Insly woned it for a while (he is always at the track in the stands might be good to tak to)... I dont know much about front wheel drive cars but it seems with all that weight in the front it would be hard to get them to handle good. Just my two cents I may be susprised....

 

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ReverendDave wrote: LOL....you two sure were alot of fun this year ...:) Thanks for taking your ...points evaporation so well . The two of you are truly good friends of mine . :dude::cool::dude:
its not worth getting up set we are all out there to have fun,most of al rev and andy i am proud to be your friend,with points or no points,but my tires are legal,not like other people we know, LOL...TO BAD THEY CANT SEE MY ILLEGAL CARBS;):D:dude:



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It used to be the VW's up there a few years back. I honestly believe you can make ANYTHING work with enough perseverance and time. Look at how good the Honda's do in stock trim in the Hornets... Put on better rubber and some other trick goodies and they will be a tough contender IMO, especialy a V Tec.. Go from a stock torque cam to a race profile by doing nothing but standing on the gas!!!



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MINI STOCK 34 wrote: It used to be the VW's up there a few years back. I honestly believe you can make ANYTHING work with enough perseverance and time. Look at how good the Honda's do in stock trim in the Hornets... Put on better rubber and some other trick goodies and they will be a tough contender IMO, especialy a V Tec.. Go from a stock torque cam to a race profile by doing nothing but standing on the gas!!!
thats what we are going to try jimmmmmy:D thanks jim and we may talk on help too if we can have your time  THANKS   JEFF



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hornet17 wrote: MINI STOCK 34 wrote: It used to be the VW's up there a few years back. I honestly believe you can make ANYTHING work with enough perseverance and time. Look at how good the Honda's do in stock trim in the Hornets... Put on better rubber and some other trick goodies and they will be a tough contender IMO, especialy a V Tec.. Go from a stock torque cam to a race profile by doing nothing but standing on the gas!!!
thats what we are going to try jimmmmmy:D thanks jim and we may talk on help too if we can have your time  THANKS   JEFF


We plan on taking up Jims time as well and using some of that East Coast go fast stuff in the car for 09:) 

 



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wingless_warrior wrote: hornet17 wrote: MINI STOCK 34 wrote: It used to be the VW's up there a few years back. I honestly believe you can make ANYTHING work with enough perseverance and time. Look at how good the Honda's do in stock trim in the Hornets... Put on better rubber and some other trick goodies and they will be a tough contender IMO, especialy a V Tec.. Go from a stock torque cam to a race profile by doing nothing but standing on the gas!!!
thats what we are going to try jimmmmmy:D thanks jim and we may talk on help too if we can have your time  THANKS   JEFF


We plan on taking up Jims time as well and using some of that East Coast go fast stuff in the car for 09:) 

 

Stand in line men ....I also plan on using up some of jims time . IF hes game .



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ReverendDave wrote: wingless_warrior wrote: hornet17 wrote: MINI STOCK 34 wrote: It used to be the VW's up there a few years back. I honestly believe you can make ANYTHING work with enough perseverance and time. Look at how good the Honda's do in stock trim in the Hornets... Put on better rubber and some other trick goodies and they will be a tough contender IMO, especialy a V Tec.. Go from a stock torque cam to a race profile by doing nothing but standing on the gas!!!
thats what we are going to try jimmmmmy:D thanks jim and we may talk on help too if we can have your time  THANKS   JEFF


We plan on taking up Jims time as well and using some of that East Coast go fast stuff in the car for 09:) 

 

Stand in line men ....I also plan on using up some of jims time . IF hes game .

I'll just talk to him at our work....  Those folks pay us by the hour!....lol:cool:



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wingless_warrior wrote: ReverendDave wrote: wingless_warrior wrote: hornet17 wrote: MINI STOCK 34 wrote: It used to be the VW's up there a few years back. I honestly believe you can make ANYTHING work with enough perseverance and time. Look at how good the Honda's do in stock trim in the Hornets... Put on better rubber and some other trick goodies and they will be a tough contender IMO, especialy a V Tec.. Go from a stock torque cam to a race profile by doing nothing but standing on the gas!!!
thats what we are going to try jimmmmmy:D thanks jim and we may talk on help too if we can have your time  THANKS   JEFF


We plan on taking up Jims time as well and using some of that East Coast go fast stuff in the car for 09:) 

 

Stand in line men ....I also plan on using up some of jims time . IF hes game .

I'll just talk to him at our work....  Those folks pay us by the hour!....lol:cool:
hey rev. we can do this and be fast if we can make the gas pedal go further than the floor,i think there are some guys out there will help us out,like mopardave,kb performance and a few others,WE CAN DO THIS



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wingless_warrior wrote: ReverendDave wrote: wingless_warrior wrote: hornet17 wrote: MINI STOCK 34 wrote: It used to be the VW's up there a few years back. I honestly believe you can make ANYTHING work with enough perseverance and time. Look at how good the Honda's do in stock trim in the Hornets... Put on better rubber and some other trick goodies and they will be a tough contender IMO, especialy a V Tec.. Go from a stock torque cam to a race profile by doing nothing but standing on the gas!!!
thats what we are going to try jimmmmmy:D thanks jim and we may talk on help too if we can have your time  THANKS   JEFF


We plan on taking up Jims time as well and using some of that East Coast go fast stuff in the car for 09:) 

 

Stand in line men ....I also plan on using up some of jims time . IF hes game .

I'll just talk to him at our work....  Those folks pay us by the hour!....lol:cool:
hey rev. we can do this and be fast if we can make the gas pedal go further than the floor,i think there are some guys out there will help us out,like mopardave,kb performance and a few others,WE CAN DO THIS



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mopardave wrote: I'll help out,Just let me know when and where
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So there we have it ...Ill cage it ...jim smith will help with the chassis... Mopar Dave and Jack pot jason Will do the drive train ...And you jeff ...just shut up and drive ...:P

Thanks every one for your input here ...I plan to e mail and pm you all with questions as we progress with the car ...jeff has the car at his shop and its a clean little car with 275,000 miles on it ..So start Striping it jeff lets get this thing on the way and have it done for the winter Mini Mania 50 . :dude::dude::dude::cool:



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