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Posted: Sunday Jul 13th, 2008 08:23 AM |
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well i have this 88 honda accord that my goal is to race it in the hornet races at ephrata raceway. im gutting it all out and was wondering what motor you reccomend. i know you can get more power out of the new 4 cyl motors but i only have 1 goal, NO COMPUTERS or SENSORS. looking for just a 4 cyl motor that it doesnt take a laptop to tune. what is the best motor out there for that? also if anyone has a race requirement list for the car (rollbar, glass, ect) so i can prepair for next season. been going to the races every summer for the last 10 years and finally have my own car to race.
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Posted: Saturday Jul 19th, 2008 04:04 AM |
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Posted: Monday Jul 21st, 2008 04:35 AM |
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SteveGreeneRacing wrote: I would be sure to check the track rules. Hornets are usually restricted in running the stock engine that came in the car.
yah i run my accord with the stock 1.8 liter motor and it runs just fine.
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Posted: Wednesday Jul 23rd, 2008 07:44 PM |
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| ok i will look into that, the reason i was asking was because the car is about blown so it sounds like i may have to get the same stock motor. bummer because they only have 95 HP new... and there are so many electronics and sensors that if something went wrong at the track (which i know it will) it will be hard do diagnose
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Posted: Friday Jul 25th, 2008 04:22 AM |
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shordinges wrote: ok i will look into that, the reason i was asking was because the car is about blown so it sounds like i may have to get the same stock motor. bummer because they only have 95 HP new... and there are so many electronics and sensors that if something went wrong at the track (which i know it will) it will be hard do diagnose
Nothing has went wrong with mine and it has 250,000 miles on her. Also mine doesn't have very many electronics on it. My motor has also been swapped out for the same stock motor. My friend also has a hornet car that is an Accord but it has a 2.2 liter motor in it. Do you know what size motor it has in it right now?Last edited on Friday Jul 25th, 2008 04:24 AM by #1 racing team
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Posted: Saturday Jul 26th, 2008 03:34 AM |
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| i have the 2.0L A20A1 carb motor in it. i kinda wanted to get out of this motor because from what i understand is that honda carbs were a mistake from the begining. there isnt a shop in town that will work on my car when it comes to carb issues.
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Posted: Sunday Jul 27th, 2008 11:34 PM |
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shordinges wrote: i have the 2.0L A20A1 carb motor in it. i kinda wanted to get out of this motor because from what i understand is that honda carbs were a mistake from the begining. there isnt a shop in town that will work on my car when it comes to carb issues.
you must live in a small town!!!
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Posted: Monday Jul 28th, 2008 08:18 PM |
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i live in moses lake so yeah you could say its small. i went to evey shop trying to avoid the honda shop when i did have carb problems and 6 shops turned me away, including honda and import specialists. i did end up going to the dealership and pay 700 dollars anyway. a week later the car started to act up again so i just called a friend that knew some people that were able to fix my car. there was a screw missing in the carb, dont know why i paid honda to do nothing. funny thing was that when i got my car back from the dealership i popped the hood and found a hammar and a MAG 10 MM wrench in the engine compartment. lucky find i guess. just wondering what the hammar was for 
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Posted: Tuesday Jul 29th, 2008 04:13 AM |
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shordinges wrote: i live in moses lake so yeah you could say its small. i went to evey shop trying to avoid the honda shop when i did have carb problems and 6 shops turned me away, including honda and import specialists. i did end up going to the dealership and pay 700 dollars anyway. a week later the car started to act up again so i just called a friend that knew some people that were able to fix my car. there was a screw missing in the carb, dont know why i paid honda to do nothing. funny thing was that when i got my car back from the dealership i popped the hood and found a hammar and a MAG 10 MM wrench in the engine compartment. lucky find i guess. just wondering what the hammar was for
Thats funny but the 700$ that sounds  most of our cars around hear aren't worth that much... LOL
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Posted: Tuesday Jul 29th, 2008 04:50 AM |
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| well i would admit that it wasnt worth it. the other shops would have probly charged me around 200 total for labor so thats why i wanted to avoid honda dealership because i knew they would be outragous like that. and they knew they had me in the corner so kicked me in the junk. so it sounds like i will be running the same stock motor. are performance parts alowed to add some power? or is it straight up stock motors? i know i should just get a regulations chart but in most places what are the rules when it comes to that? now that i know that i have to run the same motor im debating on wether this is the right car to race or if i should look into something diff
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Posted: Tuesday Jul 29th, 2008 04:56 AM |
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shordinges wrote: well i would admit that it wasnt worth it. the other shops would have probly charged me around 200 total for labor so thats why i wanted to avoid honda dealership because i knew they would be outragous like that. and they knew they had me in the corner so kicked me in the junk. so it sounds like i will be running the same stock motor. are performance parts alowed to add some power? or is it straight up stock motors? i know i should just get a regulations chart but in most places what are the rules when it comes to that? now that i know that i have to run the same motor im debating on wether this is the right car to race or if i should look into something diff
well ya did get that hammer but most of the tracks i know of just run stock 4 cylinders.
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Posted: Tuesday Jul 29th, 2008 04:58 AM |
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i found the rules for your track hope this helps
NO ANTI FREEZE
- Any four (4) cylinder, or US made (i.e. Ford, GM, Mopar) front wheel drive, V^ not more than 3810 cc's, steel-bodied car with a maximum wheelbase of one hundred eight inches (108") and a complete stock body, frame and suspension. No bracing anywhere except inside the drivers compartment. Dash, steering and pedals must remain stock for that make and model. All insulation under the hoop must be removed. No turbos.
- Stock carburetor/fuel injection system for that make and model.
- Stock transmission for that make and model.
- Battery must be securely fastened and remain under the hood.
- Stock unaltered rear end for that make and model.
- Stock exhaust system for that make and model. Mufflers are mandatory. Ninety (90) db @ 100 feet.
- Approved passenger car tires only (example: 70 or 60 series) wheels and tires must be of like size. No low profile-type tires. No "V" "W" "Y"or "ZR" speed symbols allowed. No high-end DOT approved race type tire.
- Weight rule: 4 cylinder 2000 lbs., V6 - 2200 lbs. Track officials reserve the right to make necessary weight adjustment to keep racing competitive.
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Posted: Tuesday Jul 29th, 2008 04:59 AM |
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| well it wasnt a very quality hammar, first time i used it the head fell off. lol, at least it didnt hit anything...maybe thats why the dog was passed out behind me, i wondered what that thud was
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Posted: Tuesday Jul 29th, 2008 05:00 AM |
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Gas Tanks
- If stock gas tank is ahead of rear axle it may remain in place.
- If stock gas tank is behind rear axle, it must be replaced with a fuel cell or boat tank. (8 gallon maximum)
- Fuel cell/boat tanks must be covered, secured and located in trunk.
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| I know pinto's come stock with webers so why not try it on a Honda
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Posted: Monday Aug 4th, 2008 07:34 PM |
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mrbowtie350hp wrote: I know pinto's come stock with webers so why not try it on a Honda
Stock carburetor/fuel injection system for that make and model
That wouldn't work so well since its not a stock carb for that vehicle
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Posted: Tuesday Aug 5th, 2008 04:43 AM |
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WOW an A20 . I ran a Prelude with a A20. It didnt run to bad, the bad thing about them is the only thing that you can replace them with is another A20 unless your willing to do a lot of work. Auto Adventure in Portland Or.is where I used to get parts for mine
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Posted: Tuesday Aug 5th, 2008 05:37 AM |
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RJRacing wrote: WOW an A20 . I ran a Prelude with a A20. It didnt run to bad, the bad thing about them is the only thing that you can replace them with is another A20 unless your willing to do a lot of work. Auto Adventure in Portland Or.is where I used to get parts for mine
Where you from?
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Posted: Tuesday Aug 5th, 2008 05:54 AM |
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so it looks like everything has to be stock, just stripped down. so im looking into rebuilding the motor and just moving the gas tank and ripping everything else out of the car. now the exahst has me confused. it says they have to be a stock exahst system but i dont think the pissed off mosquito sound is stock. is this rule really enforced?
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Posted: Tuesday Aug 5th, 2008 04:19 PM |
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| At our track if the gas tank is on front of the rear axle like most honda's are you don't have to get a fuel cell. And with the exhaust we just cut it off and put a different piece of pipe on the end.
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Posted: Wednesday Aug 6th, 2008 01:54 AM |
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#1 racing team wrote: RJRacing wrote: WOW an A20 . I ran a Prelude with a A20. It didnt run to bad, the bad thing about them is the only thing that you can replace them with is another A20 unless your willing to do a lot of work. Auto Adventure in Portland Or.is where I used to get parts for mine
Where you from? Chehalis Wa is the closest spot on the map lol
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| Here's the key thing in your rules... stock make and model. I interpret this as saying if you have a Honda Accord motor, you are legal. So you could find a 2.2L out of an early 90's accord and put it in, because according to the rules as written, it is a stock motor for a Honda Accord.
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Posted: Tuesday Aug 12th, 2008 02:46 AM |
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Kaleb wrote: Here's the key thing in your rules... stock make and model. I interpret this as saying if you have a Honda Accord motor, you are legal. So you could find a 2.2L out of an early 90's accord and put it in, because according to the rules as written, it is a stock motor for a Honda Accord.
Thats what i was thinkin....
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