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WHAT WILL THE AGE LIMIT BE IN THE PITS FOR 2008 SEASON, I RACE AT DCS BUT IF THERE ARE NO SPRINT DATES CONSIDERING DIRT HOWEVER MY WIFE/PIT CREW ALSO CONSISTS OF MY 7 YR OLD SON WHO HAS BEEN IN MY PITS ALL 2007 AT DCS.



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7 Y/O son ? :shock: WOW

Most tracks  the age in the pits is at least 14 !

Careful with that little one, especially around Sprints. My son & I almost got wiped out one time by a Sprint in the pits at GHR while working on a Modified.

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Fletch wrote: 7 Y/O son ? :shock: WOW

Most tracks  the age in the pits is at least 14 !

Careful with that little one, especially around Sprints. My son & I almost got wiped out one time by a Sprint in the pits at GHR while working on a Modified.

Fletch


They do things a little differently in Oregon.

I thought I'd seen just about everything at a race track, until I saw a kid that looked to be about 11 driving a push truck- or push car. I'm really not sure what you'd call a 90's Lincoln Towncar that was pushing sprint cars.

If you ever get a chance to visit some of the tracks in Oregon, you'll be amazed at how much fun they have. There are about 4 or 5 quarter mile dirt tracks running the usual mix of "stock" car classes and modifieds that would be worth seeing. Most if not all of them have at least one monthly show featuring sprint cars.

While some of the little tracks in these "out of the way places" lack the shine and polish that we have locally. The camaraderie and sense of community overshadow the whitewash paint, concrete and drive to exhibit a professional image.

What I'd really like to find is a place that incorporates all of this.



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sprintcarz wrote: They do things a little differently in Oregon.

I thought I'd seen just about everything at a race track, until I saw a kid that looked to be about 11 driving a push truck- or push car. I'm really not sure what you'd call a 90's Lincoln Towncar that was pushing sprint cars.

If you ever get a chance to visit some of the tracks in Oregon, you'll be amazed at how much fun they have. There are about 4 or 5 quarter mile dirt tracks running the usual mix of "stock" car classes and modifieds that would be worth seeing. Most if not all of them have at least one monthly show featuring sprint cars.

While some of the little tracks in these "out of the way places" lack the shine and polish that we have locally. The camaraderie and sense of community overshadow the whitewash paint, concrete and drive to exhibit a professional image.

What I'd really like to find is a place that incorporates all of this.

Although it's not a dirt track.....you can find all of this at DCS.  :D

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Fletch wrote:
7 Y/O son ? :shock: WOW

Most tracks  the age in the pits is at least 14 !

Careful with that little one, especially around Sprints. My son & I almost got wiped out one time by a Sprint in the pits at GHR while working on a Modified.

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I think you can get hurt at any time in the pits whether your 7 or 70... most racers kids are raised to respect race cars and there surroundings .and gear heads start out early behind the wheel....KIDS ARE WHAT YOU MAKE THEM... ;)



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Very true ^.

It is the insurance that tells how old the Kids can and if they can be in the pits. Banks now has a 12 to 15 year old class as does Madras. That is Kids running full sizes stock cars with seat ajusted of course.



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I think that there shouldnt be an age limit. Should be "Enter at your OWN Risk". Parents need to get control of their kids. If a kid is around the pits growing up for age 2 they will learn the basics and grow up with the respect you are talking about! If a kid is under 18 they are the parents' responsibility. My boy is 2 and goes crazy when we go to the races at DCS or on TV and i hope he will be allowed to be with his Parents and Grandpa learning the ROPES. My 2 cents



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sprintcarz wrote: Fletch wrote: 7 Y/O son ? :shock: WOW

Most tracks  the age in the pits is at least 14 !

Careful with that little one, especially around Sprints. My son & I almost got wiped out one time by a Sprint in the pits at GHR while working on a Modified.

Fletch


They do things a little differently in Oregon.

I thought I'd seen just about everything at a race track, until I saw a kid that looked to be about 11 driving a push truck- or push car. I'm really not sure what you'd call a 90's Lincoln Towncar that was pushing sprint cars.

If you ever get a chance to visit some of the tracks in Oregon, you'll be amazed at how much fun they have. There are about 4 or 5 quarter mile dirt tracks running the usual mix of "stock" car classes and modifieds that would be worth seeing. Most if not all of them have at least one monthly show featuring sprint cars.

While some of the little tracks in these "out of the way places" lack the shine and polish that we have locally. The camaraderie and sense of community overshadow the whitewash paint, concrete and drive to exhibit a professional image.

What I'd really like to find is a place that incorporates all of this.


That Lincoln Towncar has made more laps around Madras Speedway than most race cars!  LOL

The "out of the way places" you mentioned tend to not worry about the shine and polish so much as making their tracks more family oriented (sp) and of course the all mighty dollar plays into that as well.  The more peeps in the pits means more $$$ in the promoters pockets..........from what I understand Madras gives no discount at the pit window for the youngin's.  The cost of a pit pass is the same for everyone. 

Having no age limit for the pits does have it's good points and bad points.  Six of one, half a dozen of the other.  The no age limit was a good deal for us since my son started racing at the age of 14. 

I'm not so sure that the insurance dictates the ages in the pits.  But I would guess the insurance premiums would be slightly higher for not having an age limit. 



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Ive seen full grown adults walk out in front of sprint cars comin in off the track...and then look mad when they get yelled at.  People just need to pay attention.  If it were up to me it would be no one under 16 with a parental consent form signed.  But I think Im the only one with that view. hehe

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ChancesMom wrote: sprintcarz wrote: Fletch wrote: 7 Y/O son ? :shock: WOW

Most tracks  the age in the pits is at least 14 !

Careful with that little one, especially around Sprints. My son & I almost got wiped out one time by a Sprint in the pits at GHR while working on a Modified.

Fletch


They do things a little differently in Oregon.

I thought I'd seen just about everything at a race track, until I saw a kid that looked to be about 11 driving a push truck- or push car. I'm really not sure what you'd call a 90's Lincoln Towncar that was pushing sprint cars.

If you ever get a chance to visit some of the tracks in Oregon, you'll be amazed at how much fun they have. There are about 4 or 5 quarter mile dirt tracks running the usual mix of "stock" car classes and modifieds that would be worth seeing. Most if not all of them have at least one monthly show featuring sprint cars.

While some of the little tracks in these "out of the way places" lack the shine and polish that we have locally. The camaraderie and sense of community overshadow the whitewash paint, concrete and drive to exhibit a professional image.

What I'd really like to find is a place that incorporates all of this.


That Lincoln Towncar has made more laps around Madras Speedway than most race cars!  LOL

The "out of the way places" you mentioned tend to not worry about the shine and polish so much as making their tracks more family oriented (sp) and of course the all mighty dollar plays into that as well.  The more peeps in the pits means more $$$ in the promoters pockets..........from what I understand Madras gives no discount at the pit window for the youngin's.  The cost of a pit pass is the same for everyone. 

Having no age limit for the pits does have it's good points and bad points.  Six of one, half a dozen of the other.  The no age limit was a good deal for us since my son started racing at the age of 14. 

I'm not so sure that the insurance dictates the ages in the pits.  But I would guess the insurance premiums would be slightly higher for not having an age limit. 

Actually, Madras did have a kids pit pass for a reduced price. I don't think there is much if any difference in the insurance premiums.

For the little out of the way tracks that cater to the local family "entertainment dollar" I did not mind having the young ones in the pits. They were all very respectful of the atmosphere and surroundings. Nobody was ever in the way.

As for the all mighty dollar playing into the promoters pockets. Maximizing revenue through the back gate should not be attributed to the practice of letting kids into the pits.

Besides the promoter has to make a profit too. If its through the back gate then should we just be glad that there is a place to race? Thats just the way it had been explained to me.





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MandGRacing96 wrote: Ive seen full grown adults walk out in front of sprint cars comin in off the track...and then look mad when they get yelled at.  People just need to pay attention.  If it were up to me it would be no one under 16 with a parental consent form signed.  But I think Im the only one with that view. hehe
Very true. Also falling back on it being a parents responsibility doesn't cut it either. Someone getting hurt is tragic no matter what the circumstances are, but if an unsupervised kid ran in front of or behind a car think how that driver would feel even if it wasn't their fault.



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I have 4 kids that have grown up at race tracks . three of them race there own cars now . when i pass through the pit gate its like were at home .there is a guard at the gate and every one is sober . as a parent i would much rather my kids be around other racers and there familys than in the stands with beer slingers that are there to party. i would much rather them see and learn from the racers side of the fence. if you drive down a city street you will see kids riding bikes and running every where with cars travaling much faster than we do in the pits and the drivers are talking on the cell phone and eating a taco .i fear for those kids safty much more than kids in the pits with people that drive race cars.



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I agree...I think that the racetrack is the safest place to be. 

I still have to shake my head at some of the stuff I see at the track tho...people out for a sunday stroll not payin attention to anything.  Seen a guy have a sprinter roll up a guys leg....he worked on it and the car was comin into the pits...the guy stood right in front of it.  I guess I am really leery of em since I been around em since I was a lil kid.  I yelled at this guy and this lady at Madras...they were just ambling along right where the cars come off the track....when the cars were comin off the track.  morons!

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ok then, i still dont have an answer so ill ask another question. can a 03 tog coil car sprint be run safely on dirt? ive read a coil car is to sensative. is it true?



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I dunno bout that particular chassis...but Sammy Swindell ran a full coil car a few years back and did good with it.  He usually ran better on dry slick tracks than tacky ones....but 90 percent of the time...most tracks dry out a lil bit for the mains anyways.

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ReverendDave wrote: I have 4 kids that have grown up at race tracks . three of them race there own cars now . when i pass through the pit gate its like were at home .there is a guard at the gate and every one is sober . as a parent i would much rather my kids be around other racers and there familys than in the stands with beer slingers that are there to party. i would much rather them see and learn from the racers side of the fence. if you drive down a city street you will see kids riding bikes and running every where with cars travaling much faster than we do in the pits and the drivers are talking on the cell phone and eating a taco .i fear for those kids safty much more than kids in the pits with people that drive race cars.
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I apologize for not responding sooner.  I believe that we are not going to have an age limit in the pits.  I will check tomorrow and find out forsure.  I do believe that the children will have to stay in the grandstand section of the pits throughout the whole event and not be allowed to wonder in the pit are.  I will get definite answers for you tomorrow and let you know.

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jbrock15 wrote: WHAT WILL THE AGE LIMIT BE IN THE PITS FOR 2008 SEASON, I RACE AT DCS BUT IF THERE ARE NO SPRINT DATES CONSIDERING DIRT HOWEVER MY WIFE/PIT CREW ALSO CONSISTS OF MY 7 YR OLD SON WHO HAS BEEN IN MY PITS ALL 2007 AT DCS.

I have talked with Chuck and the age limit will be 14 in the pit area due to insurance purposes.

Thanks,

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thank you.



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