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rhorsley
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Posted: Wednesday Jun 18th, 2008 02:18 AM |
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I was wondering what it takes to compete on a night in night out basis in the ASCS Northwest region. I have followed the northwest series sense it was the hyper lube series. I'm currently looking at getting back into racing after a few years off New job, Wife, House and ect. I have always had the passion to run a sprint car but dad got me into drag racing and that’s were I have stayed for the last 15 yrs. I wondering if you guys and gals could answer some questions I had.
Chassis - What brand do you prefer Maxim, Eagle, J & J, Rocket, XXX, and ect. (How is there service, availability of parts, Tech support, and Ect.) Do I need two full rollers? What spare parts should I carry in the trailer? What chassis components do I want front and, rear end, brakes, steering gear, and ect?
Motor - What brand do you prefer Wesmar, Shaver, Gearte, Shark, Don Ott, and ect. (How is there service, availability of parts, Tech support, and Ect.) How often do they need to be rebuilt? Do you go thru valve springs a lot? Regular weekly maintance needed?
Tires - How many do you go thru in a night?
Alcohol - How much do you burn in a night?
Entry Fee - What is the nightly entry?
Crew Members - How many people do you need to turn the car around between rounds? Can you run it with a driver and one crew guy or gal?
Payout - What is the average payout?
Beer - Brand and Quantitie? LOL LOL
Thanks for your time and comments,
Robert Horsley
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Posted: Wednesday Jun 18th, 2008 03:16 AM |
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rhorsley wrote: I was wondering what it takes to compete on a night in night out basis in the ASCS Northwest region. Beer - Brand and Quantitie? LOL LOL
Thanks for your time and comments,
Robert Horsley
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Posted: Wednesday Jun 18th, 2008 03:27 AM |
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The beer thing I can answer and probably a few others but honestly Robert you should just come to the race track and talk to the sprintcar guys. It does'nt matter which track it is. They will all talk to you and give you some great answers. Many good folks in those pits and remember that they will be the ones you race with. JMO
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Posted: Saturday Jun 21st, 2008 01:49 AM |
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| Thanks for the info guy. I didn't know how much feedback I would get from this but I thought I would try anyway. I have attended a few races and will continue to I just hate bothering the guys as there loading up or having a cold one.I didn't like to be bothered at time at the races by joe spectator so I try to respect that. I thought some one might have more time here to inlighten me but just want to make sure I have some of my questions answered before I jump in and relize I'm over my head!
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Posted: Saturday Jun 21st, 2008 02:05 AM |
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| Get my E-Mail from my profile. I have raced, Crew Chief, Owned Sprints for 25 years on both coasts. I'd love to help anyway I can.
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Posted: Thursday Jun 26th, 2008 04:59 AM |
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| i just traded a street stock for a 98 john boy roller, ive run 2 nsra races and love sprints so going whole hog. asphalt and dirt yee ha! i have all the same questions and sinse i run roseburg in one or two of my 3 cars most every week, i havent been to a dirt race sinse i was a boy growing up at skagit speedway.jim brock
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Dereki91
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Posted: Friday Jun 27th, 2008 02:43 AM |
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Its always interesting to me to see the lack of responses to something like this... not sure if its such an 'it depends thing', people are nervous about displaying preferences, or what... but... I'll bite 
So - what does it take to compete in ASCS NW region? It depends Honestly so much of this is about personal preference and relationships. It also depends on your goals. Looking at the schedule this year, it isn't all that different from competing at GHR on a weekly basis - you just have speedweek to content with, which drives how you think about spares when you are on the road. You will hear its so much of a driver and preference thing because there are a lot of great drivers on the tour, many of which can be successful in most anything with 4 wheels. Beyond that, its preference or even fad. Look at our driver of the week, Mr. Jayme Barnes... he loves to drive, and does well no matter grade of equipment he is driving.
The other thing I will say up front is that everyone has an opinion. The great thing about racing around here can also be a detriment when you are starting out - so many folks are willing to share advice. I got great advice when I was new that you find someone you respect, and you listen to them only. If you listen to a lot of folks, you can get easily confused, all at a time when you need some stability to be able to learn.
With that, to your questions:
1. Car - Any of those cars work, and folks have won in all of them. There is a cost and availability difference among them, and the fact that the only consistent source of parts on the road are for Rockets and XXX via Speedmart. So again, as a new person, not only do you have the availability of parts for those cars from the folks who sell them, but also a wealth of knowledge from the speedmart folks about them, as they have data from so many drivers in the northwest. I personally have used J&J's and Rockets... but when running J&Js, I have to have parts such as rear arms with me, because they aren't gonna be on the trailer. And if I have a problem or am confused about something, I am on my own unless there is a buddy who is also running them. Truth is most folks are running Rocket or XXX, so from a cost, availability and price perspective, that is easiest.
2. Number of cars - its a money thing. Always nice to have a couple, but many folks do it with 1. Other than speedweek, if you wreck something (and you run a Rocket or XXX) repair/replacement is local and you can get squared away during the week.
3. Parts - you are in the best shape if you are running what the speedmart truck carries. They have a great variety of stuff, and are really good about giving honest feedback about what folks use, like, don't like, etc. The rest is cost, i.e. willwood brake stuff stops the car great and is cheap, but some folks will pay10x more for red devil stuff because it is lighter. At Knoxville as an example, to keep up, you kind of need to run the light stuff, titanium rotors, etc., so you are pretty much forced down the red devil path. Around here, most folks run willwood and even the big vented rotor on the inboard. Stops the car great, and has great durability. And its cheap!
4. Motor - Same thing. They all make great power, they all cost a lot, and it comes down to the relationship. When you spend that kind of loot, you want a good relationship. Shark is local, is most used in this area, and if its an ASCS race, Marc is gonna be there, and helps every one of his customers when they ask. If you hurt your motor one weekend, Marc can get you going by the next weekend. If you have to ship your motor somewhere, its harder, unless you have spares. I personally run shark motors, and in 4 years of running them haven't had so much as a hiccup. The ASCS motors are great because you can run so many races between rebuilds (20+ is fine), and you just need to change springs about every 10 nights. Weekly maintenance - you absolutely need to change the oil, clean the nozzles, etc. Every few races you should check the valve lash.
5. Tires - depends on track and track condition. Skagit it feels like you can run the same tires half the season and still have the nubs on them. Elma, depending on how dry it gets, you can burn both rears and a front off in a single night. Also depends on your throttle control. But if you are running GHR/ASCS NW, plan on $400 or so/night for tires.
6. Alcohol - We usually planned for about 2 laps/gal including yellows. You are gonna burn at least 20-25 gallons/night if you make the feature.
7. Entry fee - there is no entry fee for the cars at most places. Just pay your pit pass, and the car gets in free
8. Crew members - if you really have your stuff together, you *can* do it with a driver and 1 person, but honestly I wouldn't do it with less than 2 crew people. Way too much work.
9. Average payout - payouts are listed on most of the websites, so you can figure from where you expect to finish.
10. Beer - always silver bullets.
Honestly hope that helps
Derek
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Posted: Friday Jun 27th, 2008 03:42 AM |
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Nice job Derek, especially on the beer answer. Knew I could answer that one lol 
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Posted: Friday Jun 27th, 2008 03:52 AM |
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| Seasons and seasons of testing on that one sir. Race-proven.
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Posted: Friday Jun 27th, 2008 03:59 AM |
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Dereki91 wrote: Seasons and seasons of testing on that one sir. Race-proven.
Hey, don't forget the wine!
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